Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Is that what "invisibly present" is supposed to look like? Somewhere between ghostly semi-visibility and dipped in white chocolate? Or is this white chocolate dipped zombie Jesus?

And I think maybe he's carry a drum major's baton. Is he trying out for a university marching band? Maybe that's why he came to earth!?

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They are Definitely Attacking "Higher Education"

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.

as regards pursuing higher education?

the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.

I don't know how this is working out in my mom's head. She somehow must think that education was bad because I stopped attending meetings at the same time I moved away to university. Yet, after I moved away, I became much less depressed. When I last visited, mom ventured, "So, next week it's another $XXX."

With a rather surprised look, I replied, "Oh no, I get paid twice that much!"

Mom: "Oh, you get paid every other week."

Me: "No. I get paid weekly $X,XXX, and take home about $XXX after deductions. It was more this last week since I had overtime with traveling."

Mom: "And how much are your student loan payments?"

Me: "$XXX. So one weeks pay just about covers my rent and my student loan payments for the month."

Mom: "Looks like you'll be able to pay back a lot of that student loan debt this year."

Me: "And I've started saving for retirement, both 401k and Roth."

Of course, I said it all with a big cheesy grin. Why hide the fact that I'm now happier than I've ever been? ... And it's all thinks to "higher education".

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The Secret is out....but nobody cares

by MrTheocratic in

i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome Mr T!

I was an elder when I started posting here. And I was a miserably unhappy ex-bethelite that had been trying to stifle my doubts and hang on until armageddon. There were very few JWs that had ever expressed the slightest doubts to me. It wasn't until I came here and started reading that I discovered that I wasn't alone. The "apostates" that WT had been condemning and trying to keep the sheeple away from really had the truth about the truth.

Looking back, I'm sure there were lots of JWs that I knew that had doubts that they dare not speak. I'm glad I'm not one of them that is still going through the motions and doing all the JW stuff in order to have "friends" or as "insurance" in case WT is right about the "panda petting paradise." But the longer I was in bethel, the less appealing a "WT paradise" sounded.

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Introducing my self

by WasOnceBlind in

i stumbled upon this site about a week ago while googling a question.

the question was "why can't jw's have beards?

" i read the responses and realized the truth in them.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome!

All these failed prophecies, all the hypocrisy, how anyone can still believe is beyond me.

If they're like many of the JWs I know, they are so personally invested in the cult that they couldn't possibly admit that it's a fraud, walk away, and live their lives without Watchtower.

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Help! I'm drowning!

by vinman in

my wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.

i've been faking family worship.

i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

There's lots of different ways to leave. Plenty have chosen to run for the nearest exit. Instead, if you choose to take your time, no need to worry--it's not like armageddon is coming tomorrow.

Personally, I chose to fade. One sibling faded before me, another after me. I've posted a few threads about the psychology I used. Here's an example: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/254990/exjw-psychology-102-how-ask-question-when-questions-arent-allowed

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If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?

by Esse quam videri in

what would be your answer?

are you are a righteous person?

on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

On a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?

I'd have to give myself a 9. My righteousness is only exceeded by my humility, my wisdom, my sense of humor, and my handsomeness.

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The Gayby Project

by fulltimestudent in

this is about a situation likely affecting thousands.. posted without comment (for a change - but mainly because i'm not quite sure what to say).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spo0mkq3vhc.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

A traditional Bible-based family is founded on one man and one woman, and her sister, and a few slaves, and HIS sister, a girl who was kidnapped and raped, and a few more women, and a kitchen condiment, and about three hundred concubines. Now THAT's a family by biblical standards!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

"... but a marriage between one man and another man, that would be immoral."

My grandfather spend too much of his childhood in orphanages. What wasa said is worth a repeat:

The fact is that birth is not a miracle, being raised by unselfish parents who will love you as you deserve, void of selfishness, that's the miracle. If they get that from two of the same sex, more power to them.

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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

by Designer Stubble in

it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

the lost one i will search for2.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

If they start the thing with "A Letter From the Governing Body", the title should mirror that--"Return to the Governing Body".

I still don't consider 16 pages to be a "brochure". The pages will probably mostly be filled with the usual staged WT pictures. There will probably be "personal experiences" from numerous Andre-type WT muppets. And what little text is there will be written in the usual condescending style of WT as if addressing naughty children.

Of course, all the topics point the blame away from the lies and false prophecies of WT Corporation with their imperfect leadership and moral bankruptcy.

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California Attorney Tries to Pass a Ballot Advocating Genocide for Gays

by Village Idiot in

this ballot initiative put forth by matt mclaughlin, an attorney in southern california, would allow for the execution of gays by bullets to the head.

mclaughlin has to gather 365,000 signatures to put it up for a vote.

i'm in favor of gay rights but in my opinion this despicable ballot should make it to a vote knowing that it absolutely will not pass in order to publicize the demented mentality of fundamentalist christians in the united states.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Okay, I'm also confused by this:

c) No person shall distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda directly or indirectly by any means to any person under the age of majority. Sodomistic propaganda is defined as anything aimed at creating an interest in or an acceptance of human sexual relations other than between a man and a woman. Every offender shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.

Isn't this ballot initiative generating interest in "buggery"? Something like this is going to create a lot of conversation, curiosity, debate, and interest in this subject. Wouldn't Matt McLaughlin be the first fined and/or imprisoned for creating something like this? What's the deal with these fundies that they're soooo fascinated by the bedroom activities of other people? How is it that they seem to be consumed 24/7/365 by the thought of and discussions about "any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification"?

If someone looks around at the world (or even just California) today and decides that this is the biggest problem that needs to be addressed, that person is seriously nutso way beyond a lady that wants to kiss another lady (which isn't nuts, I couldn't blame either one for it), or a dude that wants to kiss another dude.

So sue me!